Two people sit side by side with a saxophone at left. The man (left) is saxophonist Joe McQueen and he wears a full suit including a hat. A woman with blonde hair and red glasses kneels to his right and he holds up a program titled, Jazz and Cocktails.
Saxophonist Joe McQueen

Jans B. Wager interviews

These oral history interviews offer rich, firsthand accounts of Black life, culture, and resilience in mid-20th century Utah, particularly in Ogden. Betty Moore reflects on her experiences growing up in Ogden during the 1930s through the 1950s, discussing segregation, limited access to public amenities, and the cultural significance of movies and jazz within the Black community. She shares vivid memories of local theaters, musical preferences, and the social dynamics of the time, emphasizing both the challenges and the close-knit nature of the Black community. Joe McQueen, a renowned jazz saxophonist, recounts his journey from Oklahoma to Ogden in 1945, his battles against racial discrimination in the music industry, and his influential role in integrating local clubs. He details his musical influences, collaborations with jazz legends, and the vibrant jazz scene that flourished despite systemic barriers. These interviews provide a compelling narrative of cultural expression, social activism, and personal perseverance amid the broader context of racial inequality in the American West.